When do you start to build links for a new site ?
I honestly don't think there is a right section for my question, this one is not for sure, but hat to ask somewhere..
Nick, maybe a section for general questions/topics ?
So, my question is pretty simple not sure for the answer though.
For a new site on new domain not expired one, when do you start to build backlinks ? In the first 1-2 months do you just add content or do you start with the links straight away.
Also a 2nd question and that is it, I promise. Nick says we should aim for top 50 with only on page seo. Can this be achieved again with completely new site ? What are your experiences. I find it hard to rank 5 day old site in top 50 even for easy keywords with on page optimization only. If it's not ranking with top 50 does it mean I chose the wrong keyword ?
I'd start with social signals right away. I mean as soon as you have a home page up. After that it's as you create your posts.
Yes you can absolutely rank #50 with only on page seo. You can rank a lot higher than that if it's a very low comp kwd. The "timeframe" however is a TOTALLY different subject.
These days it's almost impossible to say "when" you're going to start ranking. I'm seeing people say their links haven't had ANY effect for like a month+. Others say they're OK. WILD fluctuations to say the least.
Moral of the story is DO NOT sit around waiting for stuff to rank. KEEP BUSY creating and promoting. If it takes your posts on site A 3-4 weeks to index and start their initial rank (top 50, top 100, whatever) so be it. Keep busy building more. More sites, more posts, more whatever. Site B might index and rank within a week. You just don't know to be honest.
There is very LITTLE consistency with google. Sure on an overall basis, things happen within "X" timeframe. But X has a WIDE range. I would also suggest that you chase VERY low comp kwds to start. You should see results quicker that way and it will absolutely be easier to rank. And I'll throw one more at you...You should build MULTIPLE sites for the same keywords. If you do it, you will discover for yourself that some sites index and rank pretty fast, others won't do squat no matter what you do, and most fall somewhere in between there.
I agree a lot with JoeyD on this one.
First, to answer your question - yes, start pointing decent social signals from Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, Google+, etc at your site once you get it up and running. Be sure to create actual branded social pages on these sites as well. This helps establish your site as being legitimate.
Once you get actual content up - make sure you get the pages indexed first. Then let them settle for a few days after they show up in the index. Then you'll want to start off with a good dose of social signals.
After that, you want to slowly start adding high quality contextual links from things like new web 2.0s on Wordpress.com, Weebly, Tumblr, etc. Right now, it seems like doing 2-3 a week is the best route. Slow and steady wins the race.
Make sure you're diversifying your anchor text profile well, too. Especially in the first month I'd recommend doing just URL, brand, and generic anchors.
As far as what JoeyD said - it's pretty much 100% accurate.
It's really difficult to determine WHEN you'll hit page 1 right now. Pages on an established site with good domain authority can make it there in a couple weeks to a month, believe it or not.
New sites, however, are an entirely different beast and are hard to judge. The 3-month plan is what you should stick to for brand new sites. But you have to be very careful with your anchors and the quality of links you're creating. Tier 1 needs to be as top-notch as you can manage.
WHEN you will rank will depend heavily on your keyword selection and content. Low comp long-tail keywords are the easiest and quickest to rank for so long as your content is up to par. Medium and higher competition keywords take a lot longer usually.
And that's exactly why JoeyD's point of continually producing content and sites is crucial. Even ones that do rank can sometimes be duds. So you need to have as much property out there as possible.
I, for example, currently have 10 sites I'm working on. Is it a lot? Yes. But this is a job just as much as a 9-5 - more so in many respects.
You could get lucky and have one site make thousands per month - but don't bank on it. I'm perfectly content having 10 sites earning $500+ a month, which is a much more easily obtained goal.